Behind the Mic: Talking Strategy, Meaning, and Measuring What Matters
When it comes to marketing, busy doesn’t always mean effective. In this episode of the Exit Engine podcast, I sat down with Jo Stapleton and John Canniffe to talk about what it really takes to build meaningful marketing—strategy-first, measurable, and aligned with your goals. We covered everything from how I built Agency Jen, to why branding is more than a logo, and how fractional CMOs can help businesses grow with intention (and prep for a strong exit). If you’ve ever felt like your marketing is spinning but not sticking, this one’s for you.